From News Anchor to Ambassador: How to Know You're Hearing God's Voice (with Ethan Forhetz)

Jesse:
Why do I feel restless? How do I know when God is telling me to do something new? What are some practical steps to know God's will?

In today's episode, Doug and Brad address these questions with our very special guest, Ethan Forhetz of Convoy of Hope. Formerly a news anchor with the nationally recognized KY3 News, Ethan shares how he and his wife made the big decision to leave TV in order to serve with Convoy of Hope, which you'll hear more about during the show. Also, check out the links in the description if you want to see a couple of Ethan's funniest moments as a news anchor.

Ready? Let's go, man!

Brad:
Well, welcome back everyone to another episode of Go Mad with Doug and Brad. I've got Doug right here next to me. And Jesse behind the glass, as always.

There you go. We are excited to dive on in. Now, before we're going to get to our special guest in just a moment here, we're going to bring him in earlier than we normally do because we got a lot of ground to cover.

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Doug:
Especially if you're going to rate uh the podcast five stars.

Brad:
If you're gonna do one, you're you're on the wrong podcast. That's right. So you tune in somewhere else, no?

Exactly. That's right. So we are we're excited because we are going to be welcoming in just a moment.

Uh someone his name is Ethan Fourhetz and we I have to tell you guys the way I first got connected, there's a little trivia about me And I I don't want to uh the I don't want this to come across sounding like I'm strange, all right? So let's just um all right, great. Um The one of the first things I do, we travel a lot, and I grew up outside uh New York City watching news for New York.

I'm a local news guy. I love when we get someplace, a hotel, whatever. I'm flipping on the local news Because you can learn a lot about people in an area just by kind of checking out the local news.

Do they, you know, is the camera blurry? Uh things like that. You know, do they uh you wanna make sure hey people know what they're doing.

Doug:
Is the boom mic falling into the shot.

Brad:
And so I tune in when we get here to KY3 News out of Springfield, Missouri. And I get to start, you feel like you're already, you're just meeting the people you're entering into their world because they are a very personable crew. And Ethan actually for a number of years was part of that. But we're gonna get to more because that's not that his story does not end there.

Doug:
Yeah, I mean you want to talk about special guests I mean Ethan is, I uh Doug, you probably say this to all the uh the newscasters. No, he he really was uh the top news anchor. I I absolutely loved when he was doing the news was well wait a minute.

Well there's this there's a story here. We're gonna talk today About a little bit about comfort zones. Now, if you're listening today, odds are you've you're either in a situation or you're gonna be in a situation, or you know someone in a situation that Where God is asking you to do something you think that it's Him and and may maybe it's like to start a Bible study or maybe it's to uh start a new job or maybe it's to tell someone that you love about the hope you have in Jesus.

As you know we're always talking about being ambassadors for Christ here as if God himself was making his appeal about his love through you and we're gonna talk a little bit about that. How do you know when it's him and and then what do you do?

Brad:
Yeah, it's really big because we uh Doug and I we followed God's call to the Hopi Reservation out in Arizona and served there for a number of years as missionaries. But I gotta tell you, it doesn't start there. It starts with a lot of other steps of obedience first.

And we're gonna get into that. Let me bring in Ethan here. I want to tell you guys, this is the I'm going to get the professional stuff out of the way.

And uh Ethan, I hope it's all right. I stole some things off your LinkedIn. Uh so I am going to get some professional stuff out of the way.

And then we're going to talk about more of the personal side.

Doug:
Let's hear how professional Brad can sound.

Brad:
Here we go. Sharing the professional stuff. All right, here we go.

I'm going to try to impress a newscaster. Here we go. Good luck.

Ethan Fourhetz is Vice President of Public Engagement for Convoy of Hope. He also serves as national spokesperson for the charity. Prior to joining Convoy of Hope, he worked for 25 years as a television journalist.

His experience anchoring and reporting news includes stints in St. Louis, Las Vegas, Grand Rapids, Michigan, Springfield, Missouri, and Tallahassee. Florida. I didn't realize you had been all those places.

He spent fifteen years in Springfield anchoring the five p. m. , nine p. m. and ten p. m. on what I didn't realize was the highest rated of the top 100 NBC affiliates in the United States. Ethan Foretz, welcome to Go Mad.

Ethan:
Hey, great to be with you guys. Thank you. That's the best introduction I've had in a while.

Doug:
I wrote most of it myself, but Either now, we we've got a great job. Oh, Brad, hustle. There we go, there we go.

You can't see a fist bump on this podcast, but that's a bad one. That's the next podcast. So uh yeah, so so we've got some some exciting, some big stuff to ask Ethan, but before we get in into any of that, I'm a curious guy and and Uh you know, I there's a couple of really important things we gotta ask first if it's okay with you, Ethan.

Can can we ask I'll guarantee you've never been asked these things. Oh, these are deep, deep questions. These are very deep.

First of all, Du the uh the sketch, the crime sketch of the the YouTube there's a YouTube video that's got like

Brad:
13 million views out there.

Doug:
And if you guys haven't seen it, you just need to put a link in the show description just for the fun of it. But basically the bottom line is there uh Ethan is is um sharing uh a uh a crime sketch, you know, a police sketch. Out of Lancaster, Pennsylvania.

Uh for a a guy that the police are looking for and The picture that comes on is hilarious and even more i it looks like it was drawn maybe by a four-year-old, but f but Funnier than that, more amusing than that is Ethan's reaction to it. And I gotta know if because if that was if that was planned Very funny, but if it wasn't, it's even more impressive how you handled yourself. Would was that a planned thing or did that really happen?

Ethan:
Well, number one, it was a all of it was true. That's a completely true story. The only thing that we got wrong that night, and we didn't mean to get it wrong, but that it was not a police sketch, but it was a witness sketch.

Oh, okay. So it was drawn not by a police artist, which we thought at the time, but it was drawn by a witness, but it still led to the capture of the guy. All of it was true.

Wow. And uh I was aware of it. Uh in fact I had seen it on the internet that day before I went into work.

So I when I when I got into work that day, I told my producer, I said, hey, this is this is really funny. We ought to do this. Uh and then that was the last I thought of it or saw of it until we were on the air.

I mean I read through it real quick with what she had written up before I went on the air. But then on the air, I don't know. I just went with it and uh and and everything worked so well.

on a production level and a timing level that it it it really became pretty funny. Uh my prompter operator Stayed with me.

Doug:
The directors stayed with me when I paused for a long time.

Ethan:
They didn't freak out and punch a button too fast. Everything just worked out really, really well. And uh we were just I was just having fun that night for the studio.

If I can entertain the prompter operator in the studio and maybe Lisa. She's tougher uh than uh than I considered it a win. Uh so we got through it and I thought, oh, that that was fun.

That was fun. The next morning I woke up. And somebody, uh Raquel is her name, I've met her since, but just a viewer, uh, had shot it on her phone off the TV.

And it's shaking and she and her mom are laughing hysterically. And she posted that and it had more than a million views by the next morning. And I woke up and I was like, uh-oh, what's going on?

And then it took off. It has more than it it has close to 200 million views at this point.

Doug:
Oh my goodness. professionalism. I have to say how you handled that. And and I'm a little comforted right now that that wasn't an actual police sketch. That that's not the police are going on.

Brad:
But they did catch the guy. And I'm just gonna say this because I We we do want to get to other things and and I don't know how I would describe this on a podcast. Would you go Google Ethan Fourhets and Home Depot?

I'm just saying all you need to know. You know, is I it is one of the Biggest laugh out loud moments I have ever had, the Home Depot story that you and Lisa shared on air. And so we'll we'll put that link in there too.

Um It just was and I know that both of those got you actually national attention. And so when we're talking about these different things, I've seen them on NBC compilation things from the network and everything else. And but but the great thing is I think what we saw, what we have been so appreciative of in in just kind of getting to know you and Sarah through KY3 News.

has just been the fact that what we see in both of you is an authenticity. There was a huge tragedy uh in the Branson area where ride the ride the ducks boat sank and it was awful and it was tragic and a lot of lives were lost and the when you guys were reporting on that, the emotion that came through you You were someone that had a heart and you do have a heart for those going through a hard time, but you also have authenticity and a heart for humor. And being able to appreciate when something has that humorous aspect.

And so I think that's what we've appreciated is the authenticity. You serve in your local church. You obviously love and care for your family.

And But that's your story was so much more because that was all KY3. But then you made this move that when you announced it on air, it was I'm guessing a lot of people were just like, wait, what? Um it You made a move in your lives from KY3 News very recently to Convoy of Hope.

Can you tell us a little bit about your hope story, Ethan? What I I just what Got you from news to this new life that you guys are involved with.

Ethan:
Well, it's it's interesting how the Lord worked in my wife's life and in my life separately. And then brought us together on this whole thing because uh this was during the 2020 year, during the COVID year, when I think everybody was reevaluating everything. I I think for us it just happened to happen during that time.

That wasn't the thing that that made us decide to make a move like a lot of other people did. But uh We we got to the point in news and and I think I uh talking for myself, uh we began to feel like I began to feel like During that year, that we were becoming uh part of the problem in the country. There was a lot of racial strife and tension.

uh the COVID stuff, nobody could agree on anything and everybody was angry about everything. Uh and and I felt like that we weren't helping the situation much. And and I got to the point where I I thought to myself, man, and I don't talk to the Lord about it.

And we w I wanted to do something. That was part of the solution rather than uh what at times I felt like was part of the problem in our society. And that was uh it took a long time for me to get there uh because uh I've never considered doing anything else.

I th I su I thought that I would was going to retire at KY3. It's a great place to work. I have no reason not to They treated us very, very well.

But the as the Lord just continued to work on us, finally we came together and we both. uh had that feeling that the Lord had been working on us separately um uh so that when we came together we didn't know what the other person was going to say. And when I talked to Sarah about it, she said, yeah, I feel I feel the same thing.

I feel like our our our season of doing TV news locally is coming to an end. And that was shocking to both of us to say out loud because we never considered doing anything else. We didn't know what else we could do.

Uh but Sarah had been in some talks with Convoy of Hope and and it really known a lot of the people in the organization. She'd been on a trip with them to cover them as a journalist years before, even before we considered moving over here. So we knew what a great organization it was and is by covering it from the media side.

We knew a lot of the people who worked here, we knew that it was a f it gets four out of four stars. the highest possible on Charity Navigator for the last 18 straight years. So they're good stewards of the money that they receive.

So We felt comfortable uh if we're going to move, that would be a good place to move. So we started talking with them about it and uh the opportunity uh uh opened up for us to come on board here as national spokespeople and I'm uh in charge of public engagement, so social media and this type of thing, public facing. And uh it just felt like a good fit because uh it's a God-honoring uh organization, and uh and that's what we wanted to be part of.

Doug:
Ethan, that's amazing. I didn't I didn't realize how um how you and Sarah had had kind of uh separately but then together. come to this conclusion.

That's that's one amazing way to know that that it was God's voice. And that's what I want to ask you about, Ethan, is is um that Brad and I Uh grew up near New York City in the suburbs of New Jersey, uh Comfort Central there. Uh went to Wheaton College in Illinois, um, great college, wonderful town.

And uh somehow went from those two places to the middle of an uh Native American Indian reservation, the Hopi Reservation, because We just knew we didn't even exactly know what God wanted us to do there, but we we both loved working with youth, with young people and knew that that there had really been no discernible movement of God, even in in this country, this this country rich with Christian tradition. and missions work that that that there were a lot of people sp and a lot of young people that hadn't heard about the love Jesus has for them. And so, you know, for everybody it's a different story.

We had We had indicators where we felt like, okay, this is this is God telling us. There are people listening to this that are going, man, that's amazing to hear this story. And They're having their own, perhaps, conversations with God, or they think that they're hearing his voice, but they go, boy, I'm not sure.

Um, and and it it might be to be a missionary. It might be to go from from the the highest success, uh professional success going to another type of success with convoy of hope Which is an amazing organization. We'll talk a little bit about them later.

But Ethan, can I ask you kinda how did you guys know? I mean, what were there some was it just a voice? You know, like did you kinda hear the voice in in your heart?

Was it through scripture? Was there a uh plane pulling a big message behind it? I mean, what how how did you know?

Ethan:
Well uh since we made the decision, we've had so many things uh happen and fall into place. uh that that is that we know is just the Lord saying, well done. Look at this.

Doug:
Look what I'm gonna do for us.

Ethan:
So it's great when that happens because you wanna you want confirmation. You want to know. Uh but during the process, I mean it was such a major decision and such a major life change for us that we really wanted to be sure.

So uh we talked and not many people knew. Uh we we talked with some very, very close friends about it Because, you know, in Springfield Market, it was a big deal, and we didn't want the word to get out uh before and dishonor KY3 at all. So we talked with our pastor and his wife about it.

We sat down with them and just told them what we were thinking and got their thoughts on it because it's always wise to seek instruction.

Doug:
uh from those above you in the Lord.

Ethan:
Uh so we wanted their blessing on it and and to know that that they wouldn't have said What are you doing? That's a huge mistake. You know what I mean?

You don't want to do that. So we got that. And then and then we are huge believers in in fasting and praying.

So we did that over a weekend, a three-day fast and prayer. And I can tell you that you don't get answers to things like you get answers whenever you fast and pray about it. Uh there are some things that only come with fasting and praying praying, Jesus said.

So uh that's a big part of our lives. Whenever we have a big decision to make or we're going through a big crisis or struggle, fasting and praying, uh quickens the answer. It brings it about at a much quicker pace, we have found.

So after that, and after talking with our pastor, we just felt a peace about it. And that's what you look for. That's what you ask the Lord for.

When the Lord gives you peace in such a major upheaval of your lives, that's when you know it's the right thing. So I can tell you that since then, uh and and and the Lord wanted us to take a step of faith in doing this. When we were at KY3, it uh there's an offer for Sarah to um To be promoted to a much more high-profile position.

And it felt like to us that they were kind of building the operation around us a little bit. And and as as we got to the point where we felt like we're not going to be doing this long term, we just felt like it it to be fair to them, uh, we only not uh uh had to decline the job that they were offering, but we had to be up front with them and say, listen, uh we see what you're doing here, uh, but we you should know that Uh we think we're we're going to be leaving. Uh we don't know what we're gonna be doing because at that point we didn't have the offer from from Convoy of Hope.

Doug:
Oh wow.

Ethan:
So that was the step of faith that the Lord w needed us to do. So KY3 gave us a hard deadline on when they needed an answer about this thing they were talking about with Sarah. So we went in and and told them, not only are we not going to be able to take that job.

uh but I think we're not gonna be here for too much longer. Uh and that was a surprise to them, obviously. Sure Yeah.

And and in, you know, and and they they They accepted it and they were so gracious to us. I can't say enough good things about KY3, just the classiness of the organization. They were so kind and generous to us.

They accepted that and they said, well, would you give us some time before before you leave? And I said, absolutely. So we decided to give them three months so that they could get a plan in place.

But we had to do that and sometimes in TV news, you guys probably have heard about it, you go in and say something like that, and they say, go go pack your box. Today's your last day. That could have happened and all our eggs were in the KY3 basket at the time.

So that was it was a little bit scary to walk in and do that. But they were so gracious. Uh they they gave us that and then uh days following that The convoy of hope offer came and and we accepted it and uh and it it it worked out.

But that was just the Lord smiling on us and saying, All right, you you did the right thing.

Doug:
Yeah. Wow. So I'm I mean I'm I'm honestly pretty floored here.

Uh I I didn't know all these details. Um and what I'm hearing, Ethan, uh this is some of the best advice and we we always love to give practical steps. um on the podcast here and and I'm hearing several amazing ones.

Get good counsel, talking to to friends and a pastor, hear what they have to say. Um fasting and prayer and and I I urge you if you're listening and you've never fasted and don't know what it is, go look it up And especially read what the Word of God has to say about it because that has been my experience as well. And uh and then also the peace ruling in your heart.

What what is the Lord you have the Holy Spirit living in you, so what is he giving you? uh piece about and finally that's really fascinating though that that was a big step of faith. So it wasn't God's not always going to just lay it out completely and just say you know, and and write on your lawn.

I promise that here are all the details if you will take this step of faith. There does come a time Where you have to take that step and then let God start doing his thing.

Brad:
Yeah, it is uh it we really do appreciate hearing the story and those are such practical steps. Because it is people need to know that uh that this is how I get from where I am to maybe where God wants me to be. And it all starts with that stirring in a heart.

Because like you said, you didn't have that offer from Convoy of Hope yet. You just knew God was kind of shaking the nest a little bit and saying there's something else. And he led you to that.

And I want to get to that with Convoy of Hope. The uh the obviously have a great commission heart. They are making a difference locally, they're making a difference nationally, and they're making a difference to the ends of the earth.

I actually woke up this morning and as I after I had my time with Jesus, I'm scrolling through Facebook, and there's the Convoy of Hope story of Seven-year-old Nicholas, who donated his money that he had been saving to go to Disney World to the efforts in Ukraine, saying, I hope my money helps them because they aren't at home anymore. And they need help. And as we see you yours and Sarah's heart, uh and and this seemed like such a natural fit for you guys But talk to us about that great commission mentality.

Talk to us about what Comboy of Hope is doing, yes, in Ukraine, but just w their heart. Tell us a little bit more about them.

Ethan:
Well that the the the heart of convoy of hope is to uh be the hands and feet of Jesus, to be the church in action. And to do that we we partner with churches uh around the world. We're partnering with churches in Ukraine right now.

We're sending in supply. That's how we're doing it. Really, uh because we have to be very careful about what's happening over there.

We don't want to become a target. So we have an unmarked warehouse inside Ukraine. We're shipping over in unmarked trucks supply from Poland where we have a warehouse and we are shipping stuff to there from here and all over the place from inside Poland.

But we're getting it to Poland, we're shipping it into Ukraine. And then from our warehouse there, uh churches are coming in and they have smaller vehicles that are unmarked, obviously. They are taking the supply into their various communities.

and funneling it out, that's how Convoy of Hope does a lot of what we do is working through the local church because the local church is the hope of the world. So we know that it there's one in every community around the world. They are our ears and eyes on the ground.

They are our volunteers that we get to call on that allow us to keep our staff down. We call on that army of volunteers, whether it's down in Louisiana following Hurricane Ida. Whether it's in Kentucky following the Mayfield tornado that hit in December, uh whether it's wildfires out west, there's there's churches there.

And when we roll into town with our disaster services team, which is the best in the business, Uh we call on those churches. We park on a church parking lot because they're huge and they are unused most of the time. We camp out there with our supply.

We dis we lead the distribution, we manage the distribution and we supply it, but it's the local church, uh, the volunteers that come in, put on a convoy of hope t-shirt, they're the ones that are literally giving out the supply to their neighbors. Being the church. And then once Convoy of Hope hits the road and comes back home after the disaster, the local church is still there to minister to the people in their communities.

It's an unbelievable model that works so well for Convoy of Hope. It allows us to keep those costs down so we don't have to move into Louisiana when Hurricane Ida's coming. With an army, we move in with 19 people and a bunch of vehicles so that we can be self-sustaining while we're there and a bunch of supply and then let them handle the distribution and it's neighbor-helping neighbor.

Brad:
I love that model because it i even in our ministry and the the work we do with Native American young people, it's called on Eagle's Wings. And that's what our heart is too, to come alongside the local people, the local church, the local body of Christ, because you guys get That you go in someplace and then you leave. You're not your your ministry isn't to go and set up shop and and open up little convoy of hopes all over the country.

It's to partner with people who are supposed to be hope day in and day out. So I I think for our Local listeners, they are, I I I pray this is a challenge to them to say, well, it's not just about saying someone else is doing it. but that I can be a part of what God is doing because I have a role to play in the local church.

And I would say the convoy of hope mentality is one that I would really uh challenge people with is Look for where the need is. Our pastor often says, Do for one what you can't do for all. And yes, convoy of hope can make a huge impact because of resources and people helping support that.

And a great supply chain and everything else, but the reality is that each one of us can step out there and say, Who needs me? Who needs me today? Who is what who's got a wildfire going on in their life?

Who's got this disaster going on that I can come alongside? And I really appreciate the heart of Convoy of Hope and what you guys are doing because you are bringing hope. to the hurting and truly making a difference.

Ethan:
That's how Convoy of Hope was founded back in nineteen ninety four. Well it was founded in nineteen ninety four, but before that, a man named Hal Hal Donaldson was a kid. He had three siblings.

Their their father was killed in a drunk driving crash. Uh their mother was in the hospital for a year. Uh the police officer back in the 60s literally stood on the doorsteps of their house and said, Can anybody take these four kids?

Brad:
Wow.

Ethan:
And uh there was one couple in town. They said, We'll take them. So they moved into a single wide trailer.

They were there for years, sometimes with up to ten people in that in that trailer. They were on food stamps, living in poverty, and he learned in that situation what it's like to receive a gift from someone. and to be blessed by someone bringing a bag of groceries or going to buy him some school shoes.

So he got to live that way, determined he was not going to live that way when he grew up, got a degree. was a journalist, was writing a book for the Bonta about the Bontanes, the famed missionaries in India, went, traveled to India as part of that. And got an interview with Mother Teresa.

And during that interview with Mother Teresa, she pointed her finger at Hal Donaldson and said, Young man, what are you doing to help the poor and suffering? And he said, he thought, well, I don't want to lie to Mother Teresa. That's not a good idea.

So he he told her the truth. And he said, well, not much of anything. And she looked at him and said those words.

She said, everyone can do something.

Jesse:
Wow.

Ethan:
And he says those those words haunted him on his flight back. Uh, and they ended up changing the lives of him and one hundred ninety three million people the Convoy of Hope has helped since n since he founded it in nineteen ninety four by giving bags of groceries out uh out of the back of a truck in his neighborhood in California.

Doug:
Wow. Oh my goodness. Everyone can do something.

Ethan:
That's that that's what it is. Everyone can do something. You can't do it all.

Doug:
That's so perfect. I mean the I I I was on the Facebook page too, uh the Convoy of Hope and and I also saw that you guys are feeding something like over four hundred and sixty-five thousand children every school day. Uh uh warm meals, nutritious meals.

That that is just amazing. And we really encourage anyone listening to to go to the Facebook page and we'll also put something um uh in a link where you can go and help Convoy of Hope as well. So before we go, Ethan, so uh I I know that there's folks listening right now who are feeling a restlessness in their heart because just maybe they've been settling for the status quo in their life and and God is talking with them about it and and they're trying to figure out well what what should I do?

What can I do? And without putting you on the spot too much here, They're sitting across from you right now. You're having coffee.

Ethan, what would you tell that person one step? Just what is a step they could take towards Hearing from the Lord about getting out of their own comfort zone and into the best that he has for them.

Ethan:
Well, I've I've found uh that the Lord speaks through his word. So I mean I would I would get in the word, I would read it, and when you know it, when the Lord brings a verse alive to you in a way that you've never heard it before. And that's his message to you in that moment.

And that's a promise to you. So whenever that happens and something like shoots out of the page and fills your heart, uh I would keep it in your heart. I would make that a promise that the Lord has given you personally.

And then I would I would follow that uh with prayer, with fasting. Uh but grab grab a hold of that promise because the Lord speaks through his word. It doesn't return void.

So as you're reading it, uh eventually you're gonna get to a line that he's going to illuminate in your life. And it'll be the answer that you're looking for. He has just an amazing way of doing that.

Uh that and and and you can really just latch on to it and and and trust his word.

Brad:
Wow, no better advice. Yeah. you for Convoy of Hope and for all those who are listening who are feeling a stirring right now before we wrap up.

But real quick, can you give us how people, if they're like, hey How do I learn more about Convoy of Hope? How do I connect with them? How do they find you guys?

Ethan:
I I always say that the best ways you can help Convoy of Hope is number one, pray for us. Pray for the organization, uh, favor with corporations donating material, favor for us in Ukraine and safety, uh, wisdom. We we just You know, the Lord generously gives wisdom.

We'll take all the wisdom we can get so that we can do the best we can in helping people and and seeing them uh come to know true hope. That's what we want to do. So if I would ask that you'd pray for Convoy of Hope, you can always make a donation at the website convoyofhope.

org. If you go to convoyofhope. org slash ukraine, there you can make a donation.

You can also get about a daily update on what we're doing and to scroll on down. There's all the stories since the beginning of the war are there. So you can get a real handle on what we're doing.

And then the other way you can do it doesn't cost you a dime is to advocate. for convoy of hope. If you we're on social media, you're on social media, everybody's got some kind of page.

So if you're on Facebook, Instagram, and or Twitter, Uh just follow Convoy of Hope. Uh keep up to date on what we're doing. Share what we're doing with your friends because who knows, maybe there's a a trillionaire friend of yours that had was looking for some place to give his money, a great organization, and that could lead him to us and allow us to to do a lot more good.

But there are three ways to do it. Pray, donate, and advocate.

Doug:
We'll take any or all three.

Ethan:
That's great.

Doug:
Well, uh boy, I don't know about everyone else listening here, but this has been a personal blessing to me today getting to know Ethan and his story a little bit more. Uh we're gonna pray right now just for anyone listening and for Ethan. So let's do that right now.

Heavenly Father, we are so thankful for your love for us. We thank you that we can even come to you like this. Um, that that uh the veil that was between us and you because of Jesus' work on the cross is torn into, and we can come confidently into the throne room with all kinds of requests.

Lord, as we're speaking with Ethan this morning, it's obvious he's a man of the word. As he speaks, um, your word is flowing through him, and uh he he communicates it probably doesn't even realize when he's doing it because it's just saturated his heart. Lord and and um as we hear him say That's a great way to know when God is giving you some instruction.

Just pray for each person listening, Lord, who w whatever level they're at in their relationship with you, they're they're just starting out or Uh, it's uh they've known you for a long time. Lord would we all just get in the word, hear from you. I pray for the person listening that is uh wondering about the next step that they need to take.

They know that there is something that more that you're asking them to do. Show them what that is. Show them your timing, Lord.

Put people around them that they can trust to ask about it. And pray that they would then take that step of faith. And for Ethan and for Sarah and Convoy of Hope, Lord, we ask your great blessing.

It's already there on this ministry, Lord. But They are doing so much good, being the hands and feet of Jesus. Lord, we do pray that uh that we all would uh pray and give and advocate.

For a convoy of whoop. We pray especially for safety for those that are carrying these things out in in different places in the world And so we ask your blessing on Convoy of Hope and on Ethan, Zara, and their family. We love you.

Brad:
In Jesus' name.

Doug:
Amen.

Brad:
Amen. Ethan, thank you so much for being with us today. We appreciate the time that you've given and the heart you've shared. And uh I would just say to all those listening, until next time, go mad.