Recapping Season 2: Dad Bods, Honor Challenges, and M.A.D. Choices

Doug:
Hey, welcome to another new episode of Go Mad with Doug. And Brad. Now I don't want to be confusing, so I'm gonna state this as as uh clearly as I can and succinctly Instead of it being go mad with Doug and Brad, it's go mad with Doug and Jesse because Brad is not here with us in the studio, therefore, Doug and Jesse Without Brad, we'll be doing this episode, but Brad is not with us. But don't worry, Jesse is and I am.

Jesse:
Yes. So maybe we can just make that an acronym and it'd be a little bit it would be a little bit more succinct, but that was pretty succinct.

Doug:
You're gonna have to do that. No, but welcome. Hey, this is our final show of this season Season three is gonna be so fun.

This was season two. Season three is on the way. That's in September.

We'll be kicking back into gear, but We decided that we would do just kind of a fun little thing here. Pick some of our favorite moments from season two. Every time I've heard Um a show was doing a a clip show.

Right. A highlight show. You go, man, that is pretty lame.

Somebody's not around. They don't feel like doing a whole show. And um I want to make it clear that's exactly why we're doing this.

Jesse:
If you can't beat 'em.

Doug:
Do you think do the same thing that they're doing. So Brad, if you just you've heard of anti-doping Uh that's like in baseball when you can't take steroids or you sports.

Jesse:
Yes, good. I'm glad we're on the same page.

Doug:
So you you can't take stero if you take steroids you get slapped with a a suspension for anti-doping. Brad is suspended for anti-donuting. Oh.

Um so an anti but however he's not anti, he's very pro that. But he's had he's had way too many. So no no So what's the what's the limit then?

Jesse:
What's what do you gotta hit?

Doug:
This we need to decide this this is the next podcast because I feel like I'm right there.

Jesse:
I don't know. I'm gonna cross over it right as soon as the season ends, right after this episode.

Doug:
The Rubicon of Donuts. So Brad is Actually out with on Eagle's wings right now. I'm having an amazing time.

God is doing great things. And he wanted to say hey to everybody. But without any further ado, boy, how's this for a segue?

We're gonna get into one of our favorite shows of the season here. Speaking of donuts, God and the dad bod. Let's check out one of our favorite moments from season two.

Brad:
Jesse, what is a dad bod?

Jesse:
Yes Dad Bod definition from urban dictionary. Oh, from the internet, so it's official. Very reputable.

Okay. Very official. Dad bod is a male body type that is best described as softly round softly round.

Uh softly. I just spit out my munchkin. It's built upon theory.

Alright. Exactly. It's built upon the theory.

That once a man has found a mate and fathered a child, he doesn't need to worry about maintaining a sculpted physique

Doug:
Now wait a minute. Isn't like the ma it's the mom that's eating for two? Why does the dad get a get an excuse?

Brad:
I just can't get past softly round and I also can't get past the point of th thinking so Since I had not found a made or fathered a child before I had a dad bot, what what was it called? I don't wanna hear answers to that. I don't wanna hear.

Doug:
So you may just have a little bit of the gut the dad bot thing. You may have be graduating into bad bod and and everything in between Quinn, we're gonna talk about all of it. I found a great quote about dad bods. Um this is a little less official But this says, uh, if human bodies were cuts of meat, the dad bod would skew more marbled ribeye than filet mignon. Or if human bodies were sea mammals Dad Bod would be more like a grazing manatee than a speedy dolphin.

Brad:
Grazing manatee.

Doug:
Dad Bot is more mudslide than mountain, more soft served than sorbet More sad trombone warrr than clarinet. The dad bot is built for comfort. Think Chris Pratt From before he was on Guardians of the Galaxy. He was a guy on Parks and Rec.

Brad:
So You might need to pause for a moment and just process all of what just happened here.

Doug:
Oh man, that one was a lot of fun to do. Lots of experience with the dad boss. Yeah, and definitely the best title that we've had of any episode.

I know, I know, I love that one. And I will say that since that episode, all right, in case anyone thinks These podcasts don't have an impact on the hosts. I have lost one quarter of a pound.

Of course, I took my socks off. to for to hit that. Okay.

Your socks are a quarter of a pound. It was winter time. I was I was doubling up.

So One of our most listened to episodes of the season, actually it was a two-parter. It's called the Honor Challenge, and we actually had Anna, my wife, and Sarah Brad's wife in here with us to help us do the honor challenge where we were actually sharing specific things that we love and appreciate about each other, hopefully to energize and encourage uh folks listening, our friends here to also do the same. We had an amazing time.

We have to bring the wives back in here, bring Jesse's awesome wife Tara in the next time, get some great secrets. You have to bribe her. That I promise I will not use for blackmail.

in any way, but hey, take a listen to um a clip from one of our most listened to podcast episodes ever.

Brad:
What does it mean for The ladies out there, what does it mean to hear words of honor, to feel like your husband highly values you? What is What does that mean?

Doug:
Yeah, in the last episode about this, Brad and I said we were going to give it a shot to actually be doing this challenge more and more, so hopefully it's it's uh done something good in your guys' hearts. Talk to us.

Sara:
So for me, I ha I have to say there's there's the element of encouraging somebody makes them want to do that more. or meet the the level of um encouragement that you're given. But personally for me, even more than that is it makes me feel seen.

It's easy as a mom, as a wife. There's so many things that we do that are behind the scenes, whether it's laundry or cooking or just washing the dishes at the end of the day when you're tired and you just start to feel invisible sometimes. And so when when you say to me, I really appreciate that meal or thanks for doing the dishes tonight It it makes it feel like it matters, like you matter and what you do matters.

Brad:
Okay, so then w to interject there, we've been talking about Sarah, you and I have heard it repeatedly in some of these uh classes. We've been part of and everything this year with teaching some of these young native leaders as part of the On Eagles Wings Leadership Center here. But we've been talking about the names of God.

And so if you're wondering how does this all fit into being an ambassador One of the names of God is Elroy, the God who sees. And so when you are helping your wife, your husband feel like they are seen. You are being Christ's ambassador because you are being the hands and feet of Jesus and helping them know that you see them, but more importantly, that God sees who they are.

And you see that as well.

Sara:
And that is one of the biggest things in marriage is to reflect God to each other. We want to reflect God to the world as ambassadors, but we want to start in our home, reflecting who God is. the essence of God to each other.

Brad:
It's good.

Sara:
I think just also feeling like we're a team.

Anna:
Like it's it's him and I, we got married. Now we have kids, we're we're a team.

Brad:
That's really good. Doing life together. It's not it's not kind of the two ships passing in the night or hey, this is what you do and this is what I do, but you guys are doing life doing this together. I I really like that.

Jesse:
So an interesting effect about that episode was I felt like having y'all's wives in the studio, maybe you guys were really more intent on uh carefully choosing Yes, I think it was a good effect. We could have a live studio audience and it would be Oh. Beneficial, I feel.

Doug:
All we have to do is find enough people that would care about listening to us. Oh. Well, uh That's it.

We're putting the call out All you have to do is pay your own airfare and uh meals and lodging, and you can come and be part of the studio audience. Through a window. For only thousands of dollars inexpensive.

Jesse:
We appreciate that in advance. Uh, we're coming into an episode that actually ended up being our most listened to episode to date. about the Asbury revival.

I felt really encouraged from this one. Not only because it hit such a current topic. that everyone seemed to care about, but because it left me wanting more of God after.

Doug:
You know, that is I think the the um real evidence when something is is of God and so much of what I heard uh about Asbury was that it wasn't just a moment in time, but that it really inspired people to make more of a difference. Uh anyone who listens to this podcast knows that we are all about how do we be better ambassadors for Christ because God is making his appeal. Like it says in his word in that scripture, he is making his appeal about how awesome he is how much he loves us through us Asbury, an incredible time, so much bad news out there.

This was big news and it made it in just about all the outlets I heard. Let's take a quick listen. to one of our uh most amazing moments of the podcast this year.

Ron:
You know, beyond what's occurring and and has gone on at Asbury, I think Um this morning, literally, I woke up and God God just seemed to be kind of speaking to me about what does this all mean and standing back from a bigger picture, could it be that God has said I have more for you than you have experienced. All of you you've been you've done everything in right at church. You give to the right stuff.

You believe the right beliefs. You go to the right meetings. You serve.

You're doing all you're doing good stuff. But there's more. There's so much more I have to pour out on you.

And he as we needed a picture. We needed something that would God said, I want to show you what a more can look like. Not exactly like what happened at the university, but I want to show you that there is more And I believe that a lot of people that are are with us right now with this podcast in their heart, even though they do all the right things, are saying I feel like there is more.

So could it be that God has done this spontaneous thing? I call it spontaneous combustion. Nobody started it, nobody scheduled it, nobody managed it, nobody produced it.

And uh I looked up spontaneous combustion this morning. Did you? It is ignition.

I did not. Well okay. Well um shame on you.

I thought everybody had. Um spontaneous combustion is ignition without apparent cause. That's exactly what has that has what what and by the way it is spreading to church youth groups to to uh uh y other universities, to other colleges are reporting on similar kinds of uh spontaneous things going on, things igniting spiritually without an apparent human cause.

So I believe that g that God has been perhaps giving us something that would make us want to open up to a bigger more, that the more that we are made for, that we have not yet experienced, to perhaps stir our apathy and our contentment and to expose the mediocrity of what we're accepting as the whole Christian deal and ain't the whole deal. He's got more. He's got more.

Doug:
Oh man, God is on the move. Oslan is on the move. Asbury is just the big beginning God is doing amazing things.

Uh we're watching him do incredible things in and through Native America and Native Americans. Brad is out and Ron is out with the on Eagles wings team right now Seeing God in action, movements of God happening everywhere, all through this planet. Let's all pray to be a part of those.

Yeah. Speaking about a movement of God, I think that's movieguy. org.

Ted Bear has really created something special. uh with with this ministry, uh with this website. Uh Jesse and I were literally just as we were sitting down to record talking about which movies we're interested in going to see And it has become a uh a complete instinct, my first instinct when I'm like, that sounds interesting.

We're talking about Indiana Jones, we were talking about uh Mission Impossible and the Oppenheimer movie and everything, is I go to movieguide. org and I go, well, not it's great for kids, but hey, uh grown ups It's a great idea to know what we're about to put in our heart, because guard your heart uh above all else for for it's the wellspring of life. Ted and his wonderful ministry movie guide helps us guard our heart.

Let's take a listen to one of my favorite interviews we've ever done. with uh Ted Bear who heads up Movie Guide. So, Ted, I'm 12 years old and I don't think I've ever wanted to see a movie more in my life.

Rambo. Rambo comes out. All my friends, 12-13, they're all seeing Rambo.

Okay, or they say they are. And I'm like, Rocky's in this movie. I have to go see Rambo.

So I was bugging my dad about it every day. Dad can I I wanna see Rambo, I wanna see Rambo. So I remember we're out in the backyard and and he's he surprised me.

He says, Okay Doug, here's the deal. Now I didn't realize he was using Psychology at this point. I'm too young to realize this, but he says, Looks me in the eye, Doug.

I trust you. I love you. I support your decisions.

So sure, I will let you decide to go see it Because I so trust your judgment. And then of course I didn't want to see it at all because I don't want to disappoint dad. That's beautiful.

It it's all about his dad was he was serious about about winning our hearts loving Jesus versus behavior. Because I mean when you're two years old, you have to try to control your kids' behavior. But at some point before they're 18, before they move out of the house If there's not a transfer uh from behavior to I just love God and and I'm winning a heart I I bring that up because I'm curious if there is a personal grid that you have to determine what you're gonna watch to what I watch, listen to.

Um because you know the rating system anyone who trusts the rating system is in trouble. Yeah.

Ted:
I mean you you go and oh it's PG and and the rating system is an evil ploy. Before the rating system when the churches were involved through the Protestant Film Office and the Jewish Defense League and the Catholic Legion of Decency, you know, which have been all mocked in time, but they kept movies clean from nineteen thirty three to nineteen sixty six What I mean by clean is they didn't have foul language, you didn't have nudity, sex, the violence was not porno violence or whatever you have today. And then they withdrew And Lyndon Johnson's press secretary, because people stopped going to movies, went from forty-four million weekly attendance to seventeen million People weren't going to movies.

The movie industry panicked. We don't have standards anymore. They gave up the standards.

And the standards were that you wouldn't portray violence in a way that a young susceptible person would commit violence. You wouldn't portray sex in such a way that so the standards were very positive but they all fell apart. The church actually left Hollywood Hollywood didn't leave the church.

The head of Parallel Pictures, a Jewish man, said if you leave Hollywood, it's like taking the salt for the meat. The meat's gonna rot. Within three years it rotted.

Wow. And this guy, Lyndon Johnson's corrupt Press press secretary came up with a rating system. But the rating system, think about it.

I mean you're you love road trips, right? Right. So you're driving through a town and you see a blinking red light where you know what You know, I mean on a store, not on the i you know, you get oh, that's alcohol, that's a place I can go to get something nefarious.

And um kids know that. They immediately know that if it's a blinking red light it's gonna or whatever the movie is, it attracts them. And it's the forbidden fruit We know that from Adam and Eve.

So we need to be so the rating system became a way of deceiving people.

Jesse:
The reason that episode was so interesting to me was because you could tell Ted Bear was someone who He knew Hollywood in and out and was able to kind of see through where it needed to be see through and also to engage it where it needed to be engaged. Super interesting guy

Doug:
Totally agree. We did that interview at uh the National Religious Broadcasters Convention this year, which was down in Orlando and while we were there we had another opportunity for another great interview. Um the who I call the there's a lot of great college presidents out there But speaking of Rambo with Ted Bear, this is who I call the Rambo of college presidents.

What is that? I don't even know what it means. But it means he's tough.

It means he's strong, he's courageous, and really uh what I really appreciated about this, Mark Job, wonderful man of God, a pastor. Um, heading up Moody Bible Institute, one of the most amazing and continually amazing uh colleges. I was expecting when we asked Mark about the younger generation that their his response might be, well, we've got a lot of work to do there and and I hope they'll get their act together.

But you know what? He actually changed my thinking some because he wanted to jump in to the positive. He has seen so much good coming from this younger generation.

And in that completely um hit me and I was, man, he's right. I see that uh I see that my daughter, I see that in this generation. And Mark was certainly one of the most thoughtful and fascinating interviews we have.

had on Go Mad with Doug and Brad. So take a listen to this. What encourages you, what concerns you about this generation, and what advice might you give to Christian parents who are shaping the life?

of Gen Z or Softball question right there.

Mark:
Well let me say I I would speak to both Gen Z And to Generation Alpha, who is the the generation after them as well. So I Like most older generations, I I feel like I hear a lot of people bemoaning the state of our youth. Yeah.

And and I've I've seen them sort of um wilt in front of people that talk about what they see wrong with our youth. But let me say I have a 24-year-old son myself, um, ministered to a lot of young people. So let me talk about, first of all, what amazing things I see among them.

I see a generation That is um passionate when when God captures the heart that's passionate about God I see a generation that's unafraid to worship God lavishly, more than the generation that I come from. Less reserved and more lavish in their worship. I see a generation that is driven by causes that are important.

Um I see a generation that um desires justice to happen and I think that's something that comes from a a God uh a a God focus. Yes. I see a generation that values family more than previous generations.

A generation that is willing to work for um purpose in life And has a less emphasis on money than previous generations. In other words, they'll take a l less paying job if they feel like it's more related to a cause that has significance. I see a generation that's very much more relational oriented that values relations more than previous generations do did.

And I think every generation Wants authenticity, but this generation especially desires authenticity. So those are some of the things that encourage me. Um uh these uh students that are studying and just willing to they want to make sure their life counts for something.

That's good. And those that are captured by God, they just want to make a difference Um and I think every generation has wanted that, but I see it more in this generation than I think previous generations that are looking more for security and significance. Some of the challenges that this generation faces, this generation has been raised with a strong um onslaught of pluralism which means that they have been taught since they were little kids that everybody's ideas should be accepted as equal, that there's really no truth.

It's truth is uh no absolute truth. Truth is what it means to you. And so They have been soaked in this idea that to take your truth and elevate it over someone else's truth is just wrong.

And so Um there's a little bit of um this uh sometimes not not a certainty about what truth is. Truth is very personal to people, right? Which causes a lot of confusion They've been raised in a generation where um this the whole topic of human sexuality and gender fluidity And just very confused.

So they've been raising a generation that says you need to try to respect everybody, whatever they think, however they define themselves, and so to try to define it more clearly is insulting or or or or it's bigotry. So so they're uh uh more ambiguous about sexuality. Even Christian youth they they've been raised in uh more reluctant about evangelism because you know they they did a Barna did a survey among millennials um not not Gen Z or Alpha but millennials that attend evangelical churches and ask, is it wrong to share your faith with someone else that has different beliefs in order to convert them.

And they 70% believe that it was wrong.

Doug:
Scary.

Mark:
What's wrong? Evangelism. Yes.

They believe that evangelism is wrong. These are evangelical millennials going to church. Right.

Um that Uh so because they've been so soaked in a culture of respecting everybody's ideas as equal. Not just I respect you as a person, even you have different ideas. I have to validate your truth And I have to celebrate whatever you believe because if not I'm it's demeaning to you.

That's what the culture has taught this generation. I think the other thing that I've observed about this generation is that Um especially coming out of the pandemic, the escalation of anxiety That's loneliness, suicidal ideation. That combined with an over dependency on uh these devices the phone since 2012 uh sociologists have studied a precipitous uh increase in uh anxiety uh loneliness, depression, especially among the college age and and in particular women, but not exclusively women.

And the only difference that they can tell is that this is 2012 is around when these smartphones became common to everybody. Uh-huh. And so we are hyper connected but very uh disconnected.

Yes. And so that has some effects on uh on on people's emotional well being as well So those are some of the challenges that this generation is facing, as well as some of the beauty that this generation has as well.

Doug:
See, like I said, fascinating stuff. Jesse that that has to encourage you to know

Jesse:
Yeah. Yeah. And Mark Job uh I felt was extremely real in his uh understanding of the next generation, but also extremely positive and extremely encouraging. Uh definitely the kind of person I would want to model service after.

Doug:
You know, I completely agree. And speaking of real and positive and encouraging, we pray, and I don't just say that as a fun phrase, as a deep phrase, we really do pray a lot that this podcast is encouraging for you. We thank you so much for being a part of season two.

If there are some that you missed, check out season two, check out season one share it with friends if you would. That's that's how the word gets out about podcasts. Um we pray that we are even just a small part of you um thinking about and acting on being an even more effective ambassador for our awesome Savior Jesus Jesse, you do such an amazing job of producing this show.

Thank you. Thank you to our listeners. And uh season three.

Season three. We were just talking about this. We have some really great stuff lined up, including guests.

We're not gonna tell you yet.

Jesse:
Nope, there's no make sure except

Doug:
September.

Jesse:
There's one in particular that's in the hopper that I'm really looking forward to.

Doug:
We might even kick things off there. We don't know, but but uh it's gonna be good. I know that. So Have a great summer.

Doug:
We'll be back soon. So until next time, go mad