PARENTFAIL: Steps to Take When You Feel You've Failed Your Kids

Doug:
Everybody, welcome to season three, episode two of the Go Mad with Doug and Brad Podcast. They were talking about that biggest of all parent fears. Tuition. Know that we're failing our kids, so hang on whether you got kids or not, whatever age they are, this is for you today.

Jesse:
Well, it's that time of year again where eggnog is spontaneously appearing on the shelves, and ghost decorations are making simple trips to the store feel like entering A haunted house. I'm looking at you, Home Depot. But today, Doug and Brad hit on something that scares most of us year-round.

The fear of failing as a parent. What if I mess up my kids? What do I do if I know I miss them all?

How do I keep moving forward without giving up? All this and more coming up as we dive into the second episode of the season. Let's go, Matt!

Brad:
Welcome everyone. As Doug said, another episode of GoMad with Doug and Brad. We've got Jesse with us. How's it going, Jesse?

Jesse:
Alright.

Brad:
Jesse has a man bun. He he does.

Doug:
He does a a manly bun, in fact. And I actually didn't know I for a little while I actually thought that was a bakery thing. And then and then You kept ordering it and no one everyone's like no and someone pointed at a guy and said, Hey, you have a man bun, my life was changing.

Jesse:
I feel like you're talking about me like I'm not in the room. I'm having an identity.

Brad:
Oh.

Jesse:
What a start.

Brad:
You know, I got it to do an episode. This is gonna be quite an episode because the reality is we have got three dads here. And uh we have uh we we were talking, we were comparing notes before the episode, and evidently um none of us uh are perfect dads. That was weird to figure that out. I especially did not appreciate that you guys kept listing why I'm not.

Doug:
We did uh happen to rank us as bad, though. It would be wrong of me to tell you that I came in number one. You said in the descriptive that Oh man.

So yeah, I mean we really uh are talking about something that I think is maybe a parent's greatest fear And that's that somehow we're failing our kids. You know, when when I think of ways I know I have failed or times I know I failed, it's like a loop. a recording that goes back and back and back into my head remembering I failed, I failed.

Brad said something the other day. He said, how come we We don't remember and celebrate as much all the the wonderful things that we've done as parents and the successes, but we always focus on the failures. So we're gonna talk about that some today.

All our kids are at different points. If you're listening today, maybe they're little, still little, maybe your kids are student age, maybe they're grown, but we're gonna talk about things today that addresses

Brad:
All of them. Maybe your grandparent even that's out there and you're like, man, I how do I pour into my grandkids and I don't want to fail them in uh the bringing up this next generation. So we're gonna tackle all of that.

And you said Doug, it's true. We remember some of the fun things that we've done as parents and the things that we've I I I'll be honest. There's a victory that um I don't know if everyone will agree is a victory.

But uh, you know, you remember some of the victories and for me We are almost through all of the A Team episodes.

Doug:
Uh what do you mean you're not sure that's a victory?

Brad:
That's true. I don't know what you're doing. I thank your children to Mr. T. We have seen 43,000 explosions and no one died.

It has been amazing. I mean cars flipping and one of the best things is when uh my kids are sitting there and we're watching it and then they're just like They they see a car flip and it's just crushed and they're like, No. And then the guy calls hey Bob, you okay? And they're like, they just crack up.

And I love it. That's a band aid.

Jesse:
I can't live up to that standard. I can't put my kids into jazz. I can't get him to watch the A team.

Brad:
Jesse, I'm fifty years old and I'm not into jazz. I've tried. I really have.

Jesse:
Can you get Brad into jazz?

Doug:
I've got my own victory story You ready? I'm ready. So the other day, I'm gonna give you a hint.

I'm gonna give you a hint. You you see if you can guess the victory. Here's the hint.

Oh, we're halfway there. Bon Jovi.

Brad:
80s music.

Doug:
Why? My kids. heard the beginning of that song of that chorus and they started singing it word for word in the car.

Brad:
See at least yours is more spiritual because your song talked about prayer at least.

Jesse:
I don't I mean there All I feel is shame and failure. I tried so hard to get my kids into the Muppets and all I got was feed.

Brad:
No Muppets. That was a tough one. That was a tough one for you. We talked about that a little bit. No, it's a good thing.

Doug:
No Muppets. No Bon Jovi, no jazz and no A team?

Jesse:
It's it's what am I even doing?

Brad:
So But I will say that what that there are other things that you look back and there are those things that we celebrate. The uh I love that my kids love traveling. That we have uh over the years, you know, a little more serious one, a lifelong memories thing that, man, we get to take these trips together, including with on Eagle's wings um and everything else, but we get to do these things together.

But it is true that there's so much to celebrate, but when we mess up, when there's something that happens, whether it's our fault or whatever, and Sometimes it is our fault. And all of a sudden we look at it and we're like, we dwell on that. And we just let the enemy kick us around.

Doug:
I have one of the worst parent fail stories here, you ready?

Brad:
Oh, please tell us. Hey wait, you said you were number one, I thought.

Doug:
I w in the I in parent fails. So My daughter Noelle is two years old and I am not still Victoria. Just to be clear.

She's twenty-one now, and yet still this haunts me. This haunts me, my first child, two years old. I'm like, we are in victory mode.

We're at Disneyland. Oh my goodness. And I'm like, I'm gonna bring her on my favorite ride.

Pirates of the Caribbean. Like, this is a kid's ride. I can't wait for her to experience what I've experienced.

Well, she was two years old. I I kind of forgot that I was like 12 When I w I went on it the first time, and it's not exactly a kid's ride. I take her in my arms.

By the way, there's no way to get off this ride, just so you know, if you start to have a bad experience. You are trapped So we're in this boat, it gets very dark, and immediately Noelle tenses up and we start to go into the ride and there's like this spooky face that goes, Abandon hope, all ye who enter here. And this evil laugh and immediately She starts, she tenses up, she buries her head in my chest, and she cries for the entire ride, is terrified the entire ride.

Which by the way is seven minutes long.

Brad:
And that that felt like seventeen to twenty-seven minutes for you right there.

Doug:
That felt like seven hours, man. And uh uh

Brad:
There was at one time Doug thought, I I could swim for it with my daughter. What a huge dad fail. You got any of those?

Oh I see, I don't know if I can tell the one that comes to my mind. Uh be g I'll tell it. Oh wow.

So because it's it's actual and metaphorical. Um the the reality is is that I Sarah ran out. We're living uh out in Arizona, remote community, and she runs up to this uh like yard sale.

It's like seven minutes away. I'm like, I'll be fine. And Carissa, she's a baby, and um all of a sudden I'm carrying her, and I want to be clear: it wasn't a long fall, but I dropped her.

I dropped my daughter. You're right, you shouldn't have changed. No, it was so all of a sudden I mean I called Sarah quickly and said, you need to come home.

I'm not ready for this. And so she She came up and Carissa was fine, but I'm gonna be honest, I couldn't tell her till she was sixteen years old. It just came out once and guess what?

Yeah, there were I I'm pretty sure there's some judgment there. It was this look of you did what? And I'm like, you're fine.

You're fine. I mean, so it was but I will say what stuck with me was, yes, it wasn't the uh, you know, it wasn't maybe typical parent failure or whatever, but I I dropped my daughter and all of a sudden I just felt like, man, all this guilt and shame for that. And that is really what we're talking about today.

Is there are times that we drop The ball as parents and one of the greatest tricks the devil uses with parents is causing them to live in doubt and shame and regret. But the reality is we still have to be bold in those times. We still have to be willing to say, you know what?

Hey, I know I made a mistake, but I'm not going to let that keep me. from trying and moving forward, but the devil really loves to throw that in your face, not just at the time, but years down the road to bring it back up.

Doug:
The Bible calls him in Revelation 12 the accuser of the brethren. And I I think you can call him the accuser of the parent, man. He knows if he can Really get into our hearts and minds as failures as parents, or convincing us that we are.

We won't intervene when we should because we'll be afraid of failure. We might become apathetic because we're afraid of failure. Uh there's there is no question that the enemy will work on you in a big way.

I I remember Um with my son, he was just, we we had put every like um every filter you could possibly put on the internet. Yeah. Okay.

And he's like trying to look at cars videos like Lightning McQueen. And as you may know as a parent on the internet, there are things that even if your kids aren't looking for them, those things are looking for your kids and they figure out a way in advertisements and well either way, he ended up watching something that no one should ever watch. But you know, as a twelve, thirteen year old We saw that and m his mom and I were heartbroken and I will tell you for weeks afterwards I was kicking myself.

I said, where did I fail? Why did I not why wasn't I more careful? And the enemy really did a number on me.

Brad:
I think one of the keys here is something you just brought out there, Doug, because all any parent listening, any grandparent listening, anyone that has Honestly worked with youth of any sort that it could be you may not be married, but you may be the heading up a youth group or you may be helping out at school with kids You know the feeling of that you you feel like you've messed up. And what that leads to is fear. It leads to that fear that you were talking about that when we fail, it gives us fertile soil.

For the enemy to say, yeah, you know what, you shouldn't confront this next time. You shouldn't take this on. What were you thinking doing such and such?

And the reality is that those times where we maybe mess up, where we have those things that we feel we could have done better, those are incredible times. To be able to bring God into the situation, to teach our children through those. And that's what we're talking about today.

We want to talk about Simple steps to overcoming the fear that we face as parents of failing our children. What a scary thought.

Doug:
Fear in that fertile soil. of uh our desires to raise our children in in a godly way, that they would become followers of Jesus. Because if you're You're a believer, this takes on a whole nother level because you care so deeply about where they're at spiritually and you want to do right by them.

We have such a deep, deep concern for our kids. Um, there's a reason for that. There's there's a scripture um in Psalm 127-3.

This says children are a heritage. They are a gift from the Lord and yes that includes teenagers. Yes.

Um So here's my attempt. It specifically lists that I'm pretty sure. Original Greek.

Original Hebrew Greek somewhere. It included teenagers. So here's my attempt to sound smart.

There is a Latin word for legacy. It's called lugare. Okay.

And of course we care very deeply about uh our legacy. And ligare actually means to send an ambassador ahead of us. And that's exactly, of course, what we want for our kids.

I remember our mom had a uh a sign over where she would do the dishes. And it said, Children are messengers to a time we will not see. In in fact a little bit later in uh Psalm 127 It talks about that arrows are are like our kids are arrows and a quiver.

Now I have and and a man whose quiver is full of them is blessed. I don't know how many kids it takes to have a full quiver. I'm not even sure I know what a quiver is.

But I do know that an arrow is a weapon that goes where I cannot go. That's legacy. Okay Um, and our children, our grandchildren will never interact with a more influential ambassador than us.

Second Corinthians 5. 20, we we talk about this scripture all the time on the podcast. It's all about being ambassadors for Christ.

And what greater responsibility do we have than to be ambassadors for our children, for our family, for our wives, our husbands. So think about that. The reason I think that it's planted so deeply in our hearts, why we care so deeply as we're believers that our kids have a spiritual legacy is because God has planted that there.

Our kids are deciding who Jesus is. If we're ambassadors, our kids are deciding who Jesus is by who we are. We're representatives of Jesus Christ.

So how are we doing? Right? God says I'm a God who forgives.

How am I doing? God says I'm a God who keeps no record of wrongs How are we doing? I'm a patient God.

I care more about the inside, what's going on in the inside than what's on the outside. How are we doing? Well, the honest truth is we as parents fail in this ambassadorship from time to time, but we can't let that keep us from intentionally building faith in our families

Brad:
One of the things I think that parents really face when failure hits is the reality that there is this feeling that man, I I'm I'm marginalized, that I moved to the outside. And so They stop fighting. What our kids need, you have you think of a uh sports event for children.

You have got all these parents who are out in the stands. And we know you hear from those parents. They are trying to especially that one guy you always do.

Oh my goodness, do this, do that. No, wait. You've got to And you see that, Raf.

But the reality is Our children need to have the coach in their lives that's right there on the sideline, that's right there with them, that's in the huddle with them when they need to be, calling that timeout to say, hey, you know what? This is what we need to be doing, who is willing to instruct, yes, in their mistakes, but through our own mistakes, that we instruct through those. You guys, all right, if I read a quick quote here Please.

All right, this is I just saw on um I I get confused 'cause I would say a tweet, but it's not Twitter anymore. It's an X and I don't understand. So I'm just gonna go with X. I'm gonna go with Twitter.

From Greg Steer, who's the founder of Dare to Share. He's an evangelist, author, speaker. Yeah.

But most importantly, he's a dad. That's what he leans into here. And he says raising children is not a formula.

It's a fight. It's a fight for wisdom on when to discipline, how to discipline, and when to show mercy. It's a fight for the balance between leading them and loving them.

It's a fight to keep your marriage strong at great times of great stress. When people ask how did you do it? Because he's got children who are walking with the Lord, he says, I don't tell him about a course on parenting that we took.

I jokingly answer prayer and duct tape. My series answer is this. My wife and I realized years ago that it is not our job to make our kids serve the Lord.

You can't make your kids serve the Lord. All you can do is create the environment. Do your best to set the pace and pray.

It's not our job to force our kids to be godly. Honestly, that's impossible. But he goes on to say that we can pray for them, that we can love them, we can do all these things.

to set, I love that image, set the environment. If we are setting the right environment, and so what we're going to talk about here is steps to create the environment to conquer fear.

Doug:
You know, Brad, um before we get jump into that, I I I think we need to to take a a second here to address parents whose um whose kids are maybe wandering I loved uh wandering spiritually, I love the coach analogy because the best Super Bowl coaches ever make plenty of mistakes. But they make the mistake, the penalty happens or whatever, but then they get right back in, they keep looking forward. Um uh if you've got a young person that's spiritually wandering The enemy wants you to believe it's too late.

Whether they're fourteen years old, twenty years old, forty years old, he wants you to believe it's too late. I love how my my dad explains it. He says, remember that whatever age they are, this is not the end of the book.

As long as they have breath. They have hope. Amen.

And this is just a chapter in their lives. The enemy wants you to believe it's over. Remember that amazing parable.

And Jesus even says, right before he tells This parable he says, this is so you will pray and not give up. Apparently there's something in our going to God in prayer over and over and over that glorifies him, and every child is on their own different faith journey. So as a parent, remember Jesus says, so there's this evil judge, and this woman keeps going up to him, knocking on his door, saying, I want justice, I want justice, keeps saying, Leave me alone, leave me alone.

Finally, he says, just because you won't shut up. I am going to give you what you want. And Jesus says, if an evil judge will do that, how much were will the God, by the way, who made, who lovingly formed your children in the womb How much more will he listen to you and answer you?

But remember, Jesus said, this is so, you will pray. And not give up. Keep bringing it.

Keep asking it. Don't become weary in doing good. One of my favorite scriptures, because if you don't give up, then you will see a harvest.

Let's get into this. How do we conquer this fear?

Brad:
Yeah, and uh great quote. Uh one more quote from Greg Steer here because it goes along with what you're saying, Doug. It is our job to build a lighthouse. That is so tall and so bright that even if they stray out of the harbor when the storms of life hit, they know how to navigate back to the safe harbor of Jesus.

Jesse:
I love that you mention being a lighthouse because it's such a good analogy for our relationship with our kids. I remember the day when I realized I couldn't save my kids. Only God could.

And that was both a slap in the face and a relief because um my natural tendency is to look at other people's kids and go Wow, they must have it all together. They're they have the secret sauce that I'm missing. And Doug, like the the parable that you mentioned, recognizing God, you're actually the only one who can save them no matter what age they are.

I gotta keep running back to you. Uh i if if I think I can follow these, you know, ten easy steps to parenting and knock it out of the park if I just hit check these boxes, I've left God out of the picture But if I'm forced to continually run back to God, not compare my kids to other kids or my parenting to other parenting, learning what I can from other people, but not Saying they're the standard and I'm subpar, it keeps me running back to God over and over again. And I think that's the way he set it up.

Brad:
Amen. Well, I uh here we go. That was so good.

We're gonna rip through these really quick here because they're pretty straightforward, but you guys will connect to them. Number one Own it when you're wrong. I when when you're when you make a mistake, you own up to it and you move forward.

Doug:
With your kids, or maybe you were right, but maybe were too harsh. Yeah. Yeah.

You know our Our the sin in our relationships, I kinda look like at as a vampire. You know how vampires die when they're dragged out into the light? That's what confession, when there is a problem in a relationship, that's what confession does when you confess to a sin to the person, even when it's your kids.

We go, well, if I am transparent and I say sorry to my kids, isn't that going to make them respect me less? No, it's gonna make them respect you more because they're gonna i it's funny, you know, they already know We're not perfect. But they don't know that we know we're not perfect.

So so be transparent um and and own it when you're wrong. Be don't be afraid to say I'm sorry. I was wrong.

Yep.

Jesse:
I had to do that this morning. Did you? See it's really this morning.

Brad:
It doesn't take us long to remember. Nope.

Jesse:
I had to call up My my wife would have my daughter and say, I need to apologize to my daughter for something. Oh man. And uh it it kind of it you know, it hurts a little bit on the inside, but I do think a consistent lifestyle of that does make a big difference in the long run.

Brad:
The second thing that I see is just don't stop fighting, don't give up. And what does that look like to not give up when maybe there's a a mess up on our part or something doesn't go the way we want. It's to keep living it out, like Deuteronomy 6, 5 through 9 says.

You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your might. And these words that I command you today will be on your heart You shall teach them diligently to your children, and you'll talk about them when you sit in your house and when you walk by the way, and when you lie down, and when you rise. What I see when I read that, when I hear what I hear in that is Man, keep talking about Jesus.

Keep putting Jesus before everything. Make sure he is not just We don't want to have just this time. All right, it is time to sit and talk about Jesus, children.

That's not what the depends. Exactly. This is saying Jesus is supposed to be woven throughout our lives.

So in the victories And in the failures, we're pointing to Jesus.

Doug:
Keep moving forward. I I don't know what we call parapathy, parentapathy. Wow.

I I don't know what the word is, but I do know the enemy, here we go again, the accuser. Wants you, and we don't even realize when it's happening, wants you to kind of disengage a little bit out of fear. So here's a third one.

You ready? Receive God's grace when you fail. Remember that scripture.

If we confess our sins He's faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. If Jesus will forgive us, if God will forgive us for our sins, shouldn't we forgive ourselves? For when we mess up.

I mean, we even teach it to our kids. Be a forgiver. Amen.

And then we don't forgive ourselves. So move forward. Receive God's grace when you fail.

Brad:
I I'd go next to you've got to be with other parents you trust. The reason we mentioned this is if you don't have community, yes, you are supposed to number one is supposed to be your spouse that you are talking with your spouse about what's going on in life about the y you shouldn't fail and go to someone else first. You should talk that through with your spouse.

But then For you together as a couple to be able to be with another man and woman that you trust. Here's a couple things that stuck out to me. Galatians 6.

2 tells us to carry each other's burdens. Romans 12, 15, rejoice with those who rejoice, weep with those who weep. How do we do that if we're not in community?

So be around. Guess what? Those other parents, you know, that man, they're trying to walk with Jesus, trying to point people to Jesus too.

Guess what? They mess up too. Talk about it.

Be able to have good community together.

Doug:
Don't ignore this one. This is a big one and it's easy for someone who's kind of an introvert. Doesn't like to be around other people, perhaps the whole thing.

Brad:
Or a man or uh just generally a man.

Doug:
I'm fine, I keep my emotions inside. I am a man, I do not share my emotions. Is that how they sound when they say it?

But Brad, this is a great point. And maybe someone goes, Oh man, but I don't have the time to do that. You don't know my schedules, like you know what, you make time for things that are important.

I get it. But even if it's a twenty minute Zoom once a week, kinda get in a covenant maybe. Get in a prayer relationship with other parents who maybe have kids your age or who maybe can even be mentored to you.

Make the time James said, confess to one another and you will be healed. Another great scripture like the ones you brought up, Brad, there's something about this community thing where there's a lot of power. Don't ignore it, even when you're busy.

Brad:
I can I throw a random one in the mix here that I think you guys will uh connect with good. It is important. We're talking about what to do when there are these moments of failure and how to really just kind of keep moving forward and everything.

And these are important. But celebrate the victories. Celebrate the victories in community with other people.

Celebrate it in your home. Celebrate it with your spouse to be able to say You know what? Man, this is a good season.

This is a good stretch. The enemy wants us focused on failure. Yes, we need to learn how to use that and to be able to grow.

But celebrate the victories. I love. I I'm gonna tell a story about Doug here.

We we both love our children Love to read the word of God.

Doug:
Yes.

Brad:
We we love that. I love that my children start their day with that and they don't. It has made them perfect. It has made them perfect.

It doesn't but and they don't do it in a loud and flashy way. Right. They do they do it in their rooms.

They have their quiet time with Jesus. But man, Doug Uh the you sent a picture the other day and you just sent a picture of your boys who were out there and they both just pulled out their Bibles, middle of the day, and they were just reading the word of God. The video games weren't on And uh and everything.

And yes, do they play video games? Yes. Do they do these things?

Yes. But they also prioritize these different things and they prioritize God's word. So celebrate that.

I love that you sent a picture of it Because all of a sudden we're able to celebrate with you.

Doug:
And by the way, they are going to do and model whatever it is you're doing just as a little side note. Wait, what? So so yeah, there are the things we say, but let's let's get real here.

It's the things they see you do. So if you're spending some quiet time with the Lord and they see that, they want to know what makes your parents tick. And the odds are they're going to try that themselves.

Let me let me maybe wrap us up. with um a really important one here. I love I love own it when you're wrong, ways to conquer your fear.

Own it when you're wrong. Um, don't stop fighting, don't give up, receive God's grace when you fail, be with other parents you trust. And of course Pray.

Now, you're gonna go, oh no, duh. I know. I pray for my kids.

God, please make my kids good. Now, this is this is more than that. Pray alone.

Pray with others. Pray with your family. Uh pray alone.

Get some daily what I call in your closet time. That's the way the the word puts it, is is you know, close the door, get away from your phone, even the rest of your family. And have a prayer time focused on kids and your relationship with your family.

Pray with others, like we mentioned a little bit earlier before. Get in a covenant of prayer with other parents. In the same situation.

And finally, pray with your family. Pray with your family. Hearing you bring your real life struggles and thanks to God.

In prayer, publicly with your kids, all of a sudden this belief system, what I believe, becomes real And they see your relationship with God come to life, it's I don't know why. It seems like one of those things we just we're it it doesn't end up, and I'm talking about personally Somehow a few days will go by and I'll be like, we haven't really prayed together in a few days. We make room for everything else.

The enemy does not want you doing this. He knows where the power is. Pray with your family, pray with your wife, with your kids, make it a priority.

Jesse:
And I would say to that also pray specifically for your kids because uh I'm finding and I'm I'm learning this. My oldest has different gifts than my youngest and different challenges. And I I'm praying uh obviously general things.

I want them to love the Lord. I want them to love people. But it's gonna look different in my oldest than it is in my youngest.

And I want God so much to bring out those gifts that I see in my oldest And to bring out the specific gifts that I see in my youngest and to work individually in their lives in in the way that only he can.

Brad:
That's so good. Pray specifically too. I man This has all been real encouraging.

As I'm sitting here, and I, you know, we've talked some about this before the episode, but to hear all this and to hear these shared hearts, it's an encouragement to me. And Let me just uh share this one other verse that I want to throw out there for parents who are struggling, who do have that wayward child, who don't know what to do right now. Proverbs 22, 6.

Start children off in the way they should go. And even when they are old, they will not turn from it. I know right now you may be saying Well, I did I started them off with the word of God.

I I did that, but they've turned from it. It means I failed. Maybe it means it's just a certain chapter, like you said, Doug, and not the end of the book yet.

So make sure you keep Making much of Jesus in a way that is natural.

Doug:
God's word says that Jesus, our shepherd goes out and gathers his sheep. He's with those parents that have young Let's pray right now together for everybody listening um that that our shepherd would find wandering sheep. And uh in fact let's let's just pray that together right now.

Lord, that is our prayer. That For anyone that is uh listening and that has kids and is discouraged right now. that their kids are wandering or maybe their kids haven't haven't uh responded to the gospel or to your word Help them know, whatever age their child is, help them to know that you are at work, that you love that child somehow even more than they do.

And your work in that child's heart. Help us to pray and not give up so that we will see the harvest of our young people, of our children becoming followers of yours, whether they're our kids, our grandkids, maybe someone is a mentor of of a young person that's listening So great shepherd, go out, gather our kids. We pray that each parent here, that for each of their children, that their kids would grow to be a mighty oak of righteousness.

a display of splendor for King Jesus, as it says in your word.

Brad:
In Jesus' name. Amen. Amen.

I thank you for joining the conversation today, everyone. We I we know that There's a lot of different things that parents face, and we pray this has been a little bit of an encouragement to you today. We're going to cover a whole lot more this season.

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Doug:
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